Tuesday, July 3, 2018

1940 Draft Cards Reveal Cimino Family History

New hints on my Ancestry tree led me to some interesting documents on Fold3.com for my grandfather and his brothers. First let me show you some pictures of the people in the documents.

Here is a picture of three of the Cimino brothers taken in 1973.
From left: Kathleen (daughter of Fred), Dick, Fred, and John Cimino
I do notice that Grandpa Dick is holding his cigar. I have very vivid memories of his ashtray next to his recliner in the family room. I believe that he smoked Roi Tan cigars. We had several of his cigar boxes for trinkets over the years but I do not have any today.

Armour Company employees in 1932. Kneeling third from left is Fred Cimino. Standing third from left is Dick Cimino. 
Carroll Stewart was a neighbor on 17th Street and I believe he is the man with his hand on Fred's shoulder in the picture above.  Carroll and his girl friend Ollie and Fred and his girl friend Shirley stole away from Sioux City and got married on the same night in Pender, Nebraska.

This is John Cimino before he lost his hair so it was probably taken about 1940.
A Cimino Family Picnic in 1962
All of the people in the above photo are Ciminos except where the last name is noted. Standing: Austin McCrory, Sophie, Christena "Tena", Shirley, Ann, Rose Cimino Ferraguti, and Jimmy McCrory. Kneeling: Antonino "Tony" or "Nonnu", Fred, Betty, Tony, John, and Rose's husband, Sam Ferraguti. At one point, I thought this was in Sacramento but it may be in South Sioux City.

So here are the draft cards for the Cimino brothers:

1940 Selective Service Registration Card for Dick Cimino
 Grandpa Dick worked at Armour Meat Company in 1940 and lived on 17th Street in South Sioux City.
Physical Description of Dick CiminoGrandpa Dick and Fred were the tallest at 5' 8".

1940 Selective Service Registration Card for Fred Andrew Cimino 
 Uncle Fred worked at Armour Meat Packing Company in 1940. Fred was the only one that did not live on 17th Street in 1940.
Physical Description of Fred Cimino

1940 Selective Service Registration Card for John Joseph Cimino
 This is the first record that I have seen with Uncle John's middle name.  I had him as John J. Cimino until now.
Physical Description of John Cimino
 John was the shortest and the lightest of the four brothers at 5'4" and 125 pounds.

1940 Selective Service Registration Card for Sam Cimino
 Sam was working on a WPA project in 1940.

Physical Description of Sam Cimino
Uncle Sam was in the middle with a height of 5'6". Sam is the only brother not shown in any of the pictures above so here are some pictures of him:
Sam Cimino and dog about 1940
 The inscription on the back of this picture says "Josie, the dog is the one with his mouth open, Sam". Josie is Sam's sister.
Anna Parr Cimino and Sam Cimino at the grave of Sam's sister, Camela Defozeo.  
The Italian spelling of this sister's name was Carmela Cimino Defazio. She was the second Carmela born to Tony and Mary Cimino in Sicily. They were obligated to name their first daughter after Tony's mother, Carmela Grasso. Carmela came over on the boat in 1911 with her mother, Maria Ossino, my Grandpa Dick (Sebastiano) and Uncle John (Giovanni) but died in childbirth in 1920. Her grave is in the Marian section of the Calvary Cemetery in Sioux City, Iowa. Carmela's husband was Pasquale "Pete" Defazio. His second wife, Mary Pironaggi, his mother and several other family members are buried in this same family plot.

Sam and Dick Cimino about 1940.
I notice that Grandpa Dick liked to feature his cigar in photos. 
He smoked Roi Tan cigars as I recall.

1942 Affidavit by Tony Cimino for Delayed Birth Certificate of Fred Cimino
As I was adding the draft cards to Uncle Fred's profile on Ancestry.com, I noticed that he had a hint for an Iowa Delayed Birth Certificate.  This was a pretty interesting document as it was a 1942 affidavit filed by his father, Tony Cimino and signed with an X.  Again we see creative spelling as the mother was Maria Ossino not "Uosino." I guess you have to sympathize with the record officials trying to understand the broken English of our Italian immigrant ancestor.

Haley Aguirre of the Sioux City Museum gave me some information about the Ciminos and the packing houses:
In the 1940 city directory for Ciminos. I see the three brothers you mentioned – Dick, Fred, and John – as butchers at Armour. I also see two more, Sam and Sophia [John's wife], who work at Cudahy’s, another city packing plant. All are shown as residents of South Sioux City. I managed to get my hands on a South Sioux City directory, but the earliest I have is 1957. There John and Sophie Cimino live at 402 W. 15th, and Tony and Christina Cimino live at 618 W. 17th.  John is employed at Armour.
Ms. Aquirre also sent me some images of the Armour plant. The first is from the early 1920s, and the second is from right around 1940, when the Cimino brothers would have been working there.

1920s view of the Armour Plant

1940s view showing the ramp where the cattle were herded into the plant

The uncanny coincidence in all of this is that Haley Aquirre is related to the DeFazio family.  Her husband's grandfather is Gary Aguirre. Gary's father was a Mexican immigrant named Luciano Aguirre. Gary's mother was Rose Frances DeFazio. Rose's parents were Pasquale "Pete" DeFazio and his second wife, Mary Pironaggi.

Haley Aguirre shared several details about the Italians of Sioux City:

Sioux City did not have a very high concentration of Italian immigrants, at least in comparison to other parts of the Midwest like Chicago. The neighborhood with the largest concentration of Italians was what we now call the East Bottoms, so called because it was on the east side of the railroad tracks and the Floyd River, in the river bottoms. The people who lived there at the time never called it “bottoms,” they actually resented the name and its negative connotation. They called it “east side.”
Regardless, the main streets over there were 7th Street. You’ll see it referred to as East 7th, to notate that they’re talking about the east side of 7th, the portion across the river from downtown. 7th runs east-west, the major north-south streets were Morgan and Steuben. So that first address you gave me for Anthony Cimino, 614 Steuben, was in the East Bottoms. He surely would have known that large Italian community living there.
People in the East Bottoms primarily worked in factories, railroads, and the stockyards, all of which were close by. The Community House was down there, a social service agency that particularly looked after Sioux City’s immigrant populations. It offered English classes, trade apprenticeships, day-care services for children with two working parents, and more services that I could ever name here. The director of the Community House was a woman named Mary Treglia, an Italian immigrant. You can read more about her story and the Community House here: http://siouxcityhistory.org/notable-people/36-mary-treglia-and-the-mary-treglia-community-house.
The Bottoms unfortunately are no longer there. They were eradicated in the 1950s and early 1960s when the Floyd River Flood Control Project re-routed the river right through the neighborhood. The Community House was moved to the Northside, where it sits today, and residents of the East Bottoms were forced elsewhere. Many moved to Sioux City’s Westside, which also had a working-class population. West 7th Street had long been a major business district for immigrants of all kinds. I’m not surprised to see Anthony Cimino living there, either.
Gary [her husband's grandfather] also told me stories about the East Bottoms. He grew up at 8th & Steuben Streets. The door to every house was always open. Anyone in the neighborhood could walk into any house, sit at the table and be served a meal. Adults could sit and play cards between shifts of work. Children would play by the railroad tracks, and sometimes they were lucky enough to see the circus train come into town. 
Many DeFazios worked at the Community House when they could and knew Mary Treglia well. Gary was even pallbearer at her funeral. He also mentioned that all the Italians that he knew of living there were Catholic, and members of the Enunciation Church in the Bottoms. Therefore, the Diocese of Sioux City may have more information for you: https://scdiocese.org/ 
I was stunned to get so much information about the Italians of Sioux City and even more amazed that Haley and I were connected through a family relationship.

Here are the vital details of all of the Cimino siblings mentioned above:

Children of Antonino Cimino and Maria Ossino

First Generation

1. Antonino "Tony" Cimino was born 24 Dec 1878 in Carlentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. He died on 8 Nov 1963 in South Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska. He was buried on 11 Nov 1963 in Dakota City Cemetery, near South Sioux City, Nebraska where he lived.

Antonino married (1) Maria Ossino daughter of Giovanni Ossino and Concetta Bruno on 30 Jun 1903 in Carlentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. Maria was born on 10 Mar 1879 in Lentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. She died on 6 Nov 1940 in South Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska. She was buried on 8 Nov 1940 in Dakota City Cemetery.

Antonino married (2) Christena Cordsen  daughter of Fred Carl Cordsen and Cecelia Marie Thompson in 1940. Christena was born on 5 Apr 1892 in Oakdale Village, Antelope, Nebraska. She died on 29 May 1977 in South Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska. She was buried in Dakota City, Dakota, Nebraska.

Antonino and Maria had the following children:

2 F i. Carmela Cimino was born on 28 Apr 1903 in Carlentini, Siracusa, Sicilia. She died on 14 Oct 1903 in Carlentini, Siracusa, Sicilia.

+ 3 F ii. Carmela Cimino was born on 8 Aug 1904. She died on 1 Jun 1920.

+ 4 M iii. Richard Sebastiano Cimino was born on 30 Oct 1906. He died on 9 Aug 1979.

+ 5 M iv. John J. Cimino was born on 3 Jul 1909. He died on 12 Apr 1980.

+ 6 F v. Sarah Cimino was born on 28 Mar 1912. She died on 30 Sep 1967.

+ 7 M vi. Frederick Andrew Cimino was born on 4 Dec 1913. He died on 21 Dec 1998.

+ 8 M vii. Samuel Cimino was born on 13 Apr 1915. He died on 18 Dec 1979.

+ 9 F viii. Josephine Cimino was born on 20 Oct 1917. She died on 10 Mar 1998.

+ 10 F ix. Rose Cimino was born on 13 Dec 1918. She died on 3 Apr 2004.

+ 11 F x. Camilla Cimino was born on 29 Aug 1921. She died on 22 May 2017.

Second Generation

3. Carmela Cimino was born on 8 Aug 1904 in Carlentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. She died on 1 Jun 1920 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. She was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodbury, Iowa.

Carmela married Peter Pasquale Defazio son of Pasquale Defazio and Carmella Grece on 31 Dec 1918 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. Peter was born on 24 Apr 1893 in Sambiase, Catanzaro, Calabria, Italia. He died on 6 Dec 1965 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. He was buried in Dec 1965 in Sioux City, Woodbury County, Iowa.

4. Richard Sebastiano Cimino was born on 30 Oct 1906 in Lentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. He died on 9 Aug 1979 in Sacramento, Sacramento, California. He was buried on 13 Aug 1979 in St. Mary's Cemetery, Sacramento, California.

Richard married (1) Mary Iza McCrory daughter of Joseph William McCrory and Julia Ann Newman on 21 Apr 1927 in Elk Point, Union, South Dakota. Mary was born on 19 Sep 1908 in Castana, Monona, Iowa. She died on 5 Aug 1952 in Sacramento, California. She was buried in St. Mary's Cemetery, Sacramento, California.

Richard married (2) Macy Lu Kimes daughter of Joseph Lafayette Kimes and Julia Poe on 2 Jul 1955 in Reno, Washoe, Nevada, USA. Macy was born on 22 Sep 1904 in Crawford, Arkansas, United States. She died on 27 Sep 1991 in Carmichael, Sacramento, California. She was buried on 5 Oct 1991 in St. Mary's Cemetery, Sacramento, California.

5. John J. Cimino was born on 3 Jul 1909 in Lentini, Siracusa, Sicilia, Italia. He died on 12 Apr 1980 in South Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska, USA. He was buried in St. Michael's Cemetery, South Sioux City, Nebraska.

John married Sophie J. "Zofia" Hildebrandt  daughter of Adam Hildebrandt and Josephine Lubanski on 28 Nov 1932 in Dakota City, Dakota, Nebraska. Sophie was born on 27 May 1913 in Stupso, Poland. She died on 17 Jan 1998 in South Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska. She was buried in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery, South Sioux City, Nebraska.

6. Sarah Cimino was born on 28 Mar 1912 in Sioux, Woodbury, Iowa. She died on 30 Sep 1967 in Livermore, Alameda Co., California. She was buried in St. Mary's Cemetery, Sacramento, California.

Sarah married (1) August Anthony Oddo  son of Cirino Frank Oddo and Alfia Milana on 28 Sep 1928 in Elk Point, Union Co., South Dakota. The marriage ended in divorce.August was born on 9 Jul 1910 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa, USA. He died on 11 Jun 1997 in Mansfield, South Dakota. He was buried in Northville, Spink County, South Dakota, USA.
Sarah married (2) Ferdy Francis . The marriage ended in divorce.

7. Frederick Andrew Cimino  was born on 4 Dec 1913 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. He died on 21 Dec 1998 in Fairmont, Martin, Minnesota. He was buried in Welcome City Cem, Martin, Minnesota.

Frederick married Shirley Frances Thompson  daughter of Paul Thompson and Anna Belle Livingston on 3 Jul 1934 in Pender, , Nebraska. Shirley was born on 18 Apr 1916 in Pender, Thurston, Nebraska, USA. She died on 12 Jun 2010 in Fairmont, Martin, Minnesota, USA. She was buried in Welcome, Martin County, Minnesota, United States of America.

8. Samuel Cimino  was born on 13 Apr 1915 in Sioux, Woodbury, Iowa. He was christened on 22 Aug 1915 in Sioux, Woodbury, Iowa. He died on 18 Dec 1979 in Prineville, Crook, Oregon. He was buried in Prineville, Crook County, Oregon, USA.

Samuel married Anne Frances Parr  daughter of William M Parr and Chloe C Goodwin on 7 Dec 1935 in Elk Point, Union Co., South Dakota. Anne was born on 20 Nov 1918 in Whiting, Monona, Iowa, USA. She died on 20 Jun 1998 in Prineville, Crook County, Oregon. She was buried in Prineville, Crook County, Oregon, USA.

9. Josephine Cimino was born on 20 Oct 1917 in Sioux, Woodbury, Iowa. She died on 10 Mar 1998 in San Lorenzo, Alameda, California.

Josephine married (1) James Vontash also known as James Joseph Von Tersch.

Josephine married (2) Harvey Lewis Terry . Harvey was born on 30 Jan 1913 in Ireton, Sioux, Iowa, USA. He died in Oct 1984 in Omaha,Nebraska USA.

Josephine married (3) Keith Barker .

Josephine married (4) Sam L. Leffler  on 12 Aug 1964 in Carson City, Nevada, USA. Sam was born on 2 Oct 1924. He died on 2 Dec 2005 in Citrus Heights, Sacramento, California.

10. Rose Cimino  was born on 13 Dec 1918 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. She was christened on 8 Jan 1919 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa. She died on 3 Apr 2004 in Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska.

Rose married Salvatore Silvio "Sam" Ferraguti  son of Verardo Ferraguti and Elvira Silvia Settini on 18 Jun 1937 in Papillion, Sarpy, Nebraska. Salvatore was born on 1 May 1918 in Nebraska. He died on 2 Nov 2003 in Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska.

11. Camilla Cimino  was born on 29 Aug 1921 in S. Sioux, Dakota, Nebraska. She died on 22 May 2017 in , , California.

Camilla married (1) Francis Budd Gonnion son of Joseph Elmer Gonnion and Frances Muriel Moffett in 1938. Francis was born on 27 Oct 1918 in Sioux City, Iowa, USA. He died on 12 Oct 1987 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA. He was buried on 24 Nov 1987 in Riverside, Riverside County, California.

Camilla married (2) Clyde Lemuel Horn son of Claud Horn and Leona Taylor on 18 Nov 1944 in Elk Point, Union, South Dakota, USA. Clyde was born on 22 Jun 1920 in Winnfield, Winn, Louisiana, USA. He died on 11 Dec 1996 in Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas.

As you can imagine there are dozens of cousins descended from these Cimino siblings spread throughout the Midwest and the West coast with a few right here in Texas.

Happy Trails until we meet again!

Tuesday, April 24, 2018

UPDATE: Italian Military Records for Nonnu

If you are interested in Italian Military Records you should read my update to this blog post that was originally published in October 2015.

Microfilm has now been digitized and is available for viewing at a Family History Center near you.

Here is the updated post:

Italian Heritage-Our Nonnu Served in the Italian Military!


Italian Army Uniform circa 1900
SOURCE: http://en.allexperts.com

#Genealogy, #italy, @familysearch, 

Tuesday, April 17, 2018

So Many Reunions...So Little Time

Genealogists love family reunions.  Some of our reunions are now online.  Facebook groups, Twitter posts, email lists, and collaborating on an online family tree are all ways that virtual reunions can be fostered.  There is no replacement for the old fashioned face to face reunion.

The Harrington brothers reunited in 1978. Left to right, Bill, Harold and Cleve Harrington.

Grandpa George Kelly and Grandma Elaine Coffman Kelly on right were frequents hosts of family gatherings at their homes in Sacramento and Lake Tahoe. Left to right: cousin Christine Watson on her dad's lap. My mom Jill Mayne Cimino and her half-brother, Jack Kelly.

Margaret Garvin dressed up her three daughters, Sally, Emeline and Phoebe for a reunion photo
with her mother, Lydia Moss Garvin in the Choctaw Nation of Indian Territory.

Three out of four Cimino siblings gathered in Santa Rosa last year. An encore reunion is scheduled for this year.
Left to right: Faran, Vicky and Nick Cimino.

Preparing for a in-person reunion requires a little more effort and planning.  Should this be an individual meeting or a large group? Do you meet in a home, a restaurant, a library, a meeting room or a family history center? Should you create a family tree poster or a simple descendant list.  How many binders and albums and pictures should you bring?  There is no right or wrong answer to these kinds of questions.  The mere fact that you get together and meet each other will create lasting memories.  It helps to make the long hours of effort in compiling genealogical records, stories and photos worthwhile.

It is also an opportunity to collect more information.  Last summer we were able to reunite in person with cousins and siblings on both sides of our family. After returning home, I wrote about the Fitzpatrick mini reunion between my wife and her cousin which I had the great joy of facilitating.  We were able to collect dozens of images from the Fitzpatrick family which I have posted to the Cimino and Harrington Family Tree on Ancestry.com.  I also transcribed a book written by Vesta Price Fitzpatrick called Uravan which I received from a reunion with my mother in law. This summer has even more reunions in the planning process.

I encourage you to start planning your own family reunions both virtual and in-person. 

All the best to you and yours!

Tuesday, March 27, 2018

Chatterton Family Bible- Heirloom Reunion

I am a sucker for old family bibles.  I have seen several at estate sales and I have purchased them in the hopes of reuniting them with someone who will treasure and preserve them for future generations.  Before I send them to their new home, I take the time to preserve the images and publish them.

I created dozens of images for the two bibles which can be accessed on Google Drive at the following link:


The two bibles were recently purchased at an estate sale as follows:

Friday/Saturday, March 16/17, 2018, 9am to 3pm

2622 Orleans Dr, Seabrook, Texas  77586

Lake Cove Harbour Subdivision located near TX-146 & Repsdorph Rd

According to the Harris County Texas Appraisal District the 2018 owner of record for this address is:

SEABROOK TX 77586-3379

Julia is or was a widow whose maiden name was Chatterton.  She is the daughter of Harley Herschel Chatterton and Laura Helen Park.  Harley was the son of Hiram Lincoln Chatterton and Amanda May Harmon.  Amanda's sister, married a man named John Lawrence Baum. They appear to have had no heirs. The Baum Family Bible contains family record data and photographs for an Ohio family who were the ancestors of John Lawrence Baum.  I will provide more details on the Baum family in a future blog post.

Here are further details on the Chatterton bible:

IMG_2246 and 2247 show the cover of the Chatterton family bible.  The spine is embossed with the initials H.L. Chatterton so it is most likely that Hiram was the Mr. Chatterton that had the bible rebound. The front cover says Old Family Bible. The Bible was published by G. & C. Merriam in 1846.

The Bible measures about 8.5 x 11 x 3 inches and weighs 6 pounds and 3 ounces.

The Chatterton family Bible was rebound by Hiram Lincoln Chatterton
before he died in Peterson, Iowa in 1937. His name is on the spine of the book.

Images were created for the most interesting pages in the bibles starting with IMG_2187 to IMG_2304.  All of the images can be viewed at the following link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u26iToat5BnvqvhCuI7TbYyWBvIdq8Mm

The Chatterton Bible was published by G. & C. Merriam in 1846.
Several of the images relate to pressings, clippings and papers that were interspersed in the pages of the bibles.  Most of the loose papers are family records in a variety of handwriting styles. Several references to bible verses were also found on loose papers but they were not copied.

The Chatterton Family resided in New York before migrating to Jones County, Iowa before 1870.

IMG_2248 of the Chatterton Bible was found inside the cover page with the following inscription:

Property of Wm. H.H. Chatterton; This bible was left at the Wm. H.H. Chatterton home many years ago by a stranger traveling on foot until he should call for it but the stranger never returned. In due time Mr. Chatterton had the book rebound. This was written by Mrs. H.L. Chatterton [Amanda May Harmon], April 15, 1940. 

Hiram L. Chatterton died 1937 in Peterson, Clay County, Iowa and Mrs. Chatterton died in 1943 also in Peterson.  They were married in O'Brien County, Iowa in 1896. The father of Hiram was Wm. H.H. Chatterton and he migrated from New York to Jones County, Iowa before 1870.

Hiram L. Chatterton Family Record which appears to be in the handwriting of Mrs. H.L. Chatterton (Amanda May Harmon).
Jennie Josephine Chatterton was married to James Neel Cook on September 5, 1922.
The Patriot newspaper was published in Peterson, Iowa

H.L. Chatterton at age 15, wrote a series of family records for the Humphrey family in 1876 which were placed inside of the bible.  Several other family records were also inserted in the bible. None of the pre-printed family record pages had any entries.  It appears that the bible was used as the place to archive all of the loose family record pages.

Hilah Edsall Smith (1823-1888) was the mother of Hiram Lincoln Chatterton. Hilah was first married to Joseph Humphrey, Jr. 1814-1849 and they had two daughters, Alice P. Humphrey born 1846 and Josephine Smith Humphrey born 1849. The widowed mother, Hilah E. Smith Humphrey married W.H.H. Chatterton on 9 Sep 1854 in Addison, Vermont. Hiram Chatterton invested considerable effort into recording the family records of the Humphrey family.  Most of the family records feature persons that were related to Hilah Edsall Smith.

This Humphrey Family Record states that it was written by H.L. Chatterton, June 24, 1876 when he was 15 years old. There were several pages that were obviously in the same handwriting, on the same type of paper and with an embossed character in the upper margin which leads one to believe that they were all written in 1876.  Children born after 1876 are omitted.

Ashbel Humphrey Family Record.

SURNAMES: Chatterton, Brown, Richards, Humphrey, Harmon, Cook, Powell, Smith, Allen, Johnson, Leach, Locklin, Taylor, Rawson, King, Byrns, Finegan, Grogan, Goodman, Lombard, Laplant, Pierce, Thornton, Shaw, Welch, Wilson, Hodgeman, and Foote.

In the family tree I created entitled Chatterton and Baum Family Bibles, I attached the images to galleries for the persons. I included more details about the images in the galleries in this family tree. It is a public tree so feel free to attach the images to your tree, if they relate to your family.


The Chatterton family bible has been donated to an archive in Iowa. If you are interested in seeing the Chatterton Family Bible, in person please contact the Clay County Heritage Center as follows:

Clay County Heritage Center, 7 Grand Avenue,
Spencer, Iowa 51301, 712-262-3304
Email: parkermuseum@smunet.net
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/claycountyheritage/

Wednesday, March 21, 2018

The Curse of a Common Name: Steven V.R. James

Steven Van Rensselaer James (b.1817 NY - d.1902 IA)

A common surname makes it very difficult to confirm the identity of a person in genealogical records. When you have a surname that is also an extremely common first name, the degree of difficulty for conducting genealogical searches is exponentially higher. Such is the case with the research on a man named Steven Van Rensselaer James who lived from 1817 to 1902.

SVR James was born on February 3, 1817, in New York. He married Elizabeth King about 1841 in New York and they had two children together, Mary and Mark. Elizabeth King was the daughter of Josiah King and Abigail Dickinson. Elizabeth King and the son named Mark James died in New York probably around 1842. Steven moved to Walworth County, Wisconsin before 1846. He married Dorcas Ann Kenyon in 1847 and they had two children in Walworth County.

Before 1853, SVR James moved his family to Warren County, Iowa. He and Dorcas had seven more children in Warren County. He died on July 7, 1902, in Palmyra, Warren County, Iowa, having lived 85 years, and was buried there. 

Our goal has been to identify the localities were vital events occurred in New York in the hopes of identifying the parents of SVR James. So far we have been unable to locate a death certificate, an obituary or a biography. All of the records located for his children indicate only that he was born in New York.  We have been unable to locate any record that localizes his birthplace or names his parents.  There are definitely more records to be explored but it helps to approach genealogical research with a meticulous analysis of all of the facts.

Before trying to solve any genealogical research problem, it is useful to make a summary of the known facts.  Here is what we know about Steven Van Rensselaer James: 

1817- BIRTH: The gravestone of SVR James gives his date of birth as 3 Feb 1817.  All of the census records for SVR James give his birthplace as New York. The census records from 1880 forward state that the birthplace of his parents was Rhode Island.  Almost nothing is known about his early life.

1841 -MARRIAGE: SVR James married Elizabeth King in New York about 1841 when he was 24 years old. One family tree states that the marriage occurred on June 13, 1841 in Byron, Genessee County, New York but they have no source for that marriage. Determining the location of the first marriage of SVR James has proven to be quite illusive.  The timing of New York vital record keeping laws also increases the degree of difficulty.  County and town clerks were not required to record marriages until well after SVR James had left the state. 

Even without a source for the marriage, Byron, Genessee County, New York records should be explored for members of the James family that show up there from 1810 to 1900 for possible connections to SVR James.

Mary Elizabeth Provolt nee James (b. 1842 NY - d. 1906 OK)

1842 BIRTH OF CHILD: SVR James and Elizabeth King had a daughter, Mary Elizabeth James that was born on April 14, 1842, in New York. She married Sanford William Provolt on May 26, 1867, in Palmyra, Iowa. They had six children in 12 years. She died on July 20, 1906, in Stroud, Oklahoma, at the age of 64, and was buried there. Her obituary only states that she was born in New York without providing a city or a county. Perhaps her descendants have a more precise record of her birthplace in their family records.  Her husband was a Union veteran and received a pension. The fact that Mary died first in 1906 and Sanford died in 1909, makes it less likely that the pension file would contain useful facts about Mary. However, the pension file should be obtained and reviewed.

1842 BIRTH OF CHILD: Some trees state that SVR James and Elizabeth King had a son Mark E. James that was born in 1842 in New York and passed away that same year. 

1842- DEATH OF WIFE: One family tree states that Elizabeth King died in September 3, 1840, in Utica, New York, at the age of 22. Another family tree states that she passed away in 1842 in Utica, Oneida, New York, at the age of 24. When I asked the tree owner for her source, she replied:

It's probably a mistake. Between transferring and renewing and updating all my trees....somehow a lot of people seem to be living and dying in Utica NY. I'm sure it is wrong. I will erase it from my tree. I'm sorry to get your hopes up. I hate brick walls.

Indeed it is a brick wall.

1842-1846-MIGRATION NY to WI: It appears that SVR James relocated from New York to Wisconsin between 1842 and 1846. There is no record of his owning land in Walworth County, Wisconsin.  The biography of his son, Dr. Clarence E. James states that In 1843 [SVR James] took up his abode in Warren county, [Iowa].  Records below show that this is an incorrect date for migration to Iowa but this may be the correct date for migration from New York to Wisconsin.

1846-1848- RELIGION: One intriguing fact about SVR James is that he was a devout Baptist.  His name appears in the Minutes of the Walworth County Baptist Association as a delegate representing the Sugar Creek Baptist Church in 1846, 1847 and 1848. He does not appear in any of the minutes after those dates for Sugar Creek or for Delavan where he is known to have been residing in 1850. It is presumed based on his membership in this church that he was living in Sugar Creek Township of Walworth County, Wisconsin from 1846-1848.  The other delegates from Sugar Creek become subjects for further research to see if perhaps they were associates in New York.
"The Delegates of the Walworth Association met at Whitewater, on the 21st of June, 1846; and after listening to a sermon by Eld. J. H. Dudley, from Matthew 23, 18:20; proceeded to organize in Convention, by choosing J. H. Dudley, Moderator; and Spencer Carr, Clerk.
The names of Delegates were then enrolled as follows: ...Sugar Creek-M Pickett, J Loomer, S Loomer, J Fields, S V R James, Samuel Loomer..." The Loomer family were associated with Sugar Creek for many years before and after the short tenure of SVR James. Leonard Loomer arrived in Sugar Creek Township in June 1837 and Jonathan Loomer arrived in March 1838. [HWCW-1882, page 939]  The Loomer family was from Nova Scotia so it is unlikely that SVR James was associated with them prior to his arrival in Wisconsin. [HWCW-1912, page 1330]
In 1847, S.V.R. James is again listed amongst the Delegates from the Sugar Creek Church along with the pastor Elder M. Rowley and fellow delegates S. Loomer, and H.B. Kinne. The 1882 History of Walworth County shows on page 940 that Horace B. Kinne was amongst the early settlers of Sugar Creek Township as follows:
Early Settlers of 1842: J.R. Kinne, Horace B. Kinne, Herman Jenkins, James and John Strong (Section 23). J.R. Kinne, was amongst the early settlers that were still living in Sugar Creek Township in 1882. The 1842 date of settlement is about the right time for SVR James to have either traveled with them or to have followed them to also settle in Wisconsin.
Augustus and Jesse Kinne were both born in Chenango County, New York in 1808 and 1803 respectively. Jesse R. Kinne had three children born "in the East"--Charles, Lavina and George.
The 1882 History of Walworth County has biographies of Augustus C. Kinne and Jesse R. Kinne on page 947. The parents of Augustus Kinne are not named in the biography. Jesse R. Kinne was born in Norwich, Chenango County, New York on 26 Nov 1803 and is the son of Elias and Lydia (Rundell) Kinne. The father of Lydia Rundell Kinne was Jesse Rundell.
The History of Chenango and Madison Counties, New York, 1880 states that Jesse Rundell was “killed in October, 1802, by falling from the rafters of the Baptist meeting-house, in North Norwich, the construction of which he was superintending.”
However, the only family with the surname James that is found in Chenango County in the early census records is Oliver James with a family of eight persons in 1820 in Plymouth Township. Oliver James is not mentioned in the history of Chenango.
In Walworth Baptist Minutes of 1847, "the Prudential Committee reported in full and report accepted and adopted as a whole as follows:
1st Believing that Slavery is a flagrant violation of every principle of moral rectitude relating to God and man, an exhaustive source of corruption to society, an incubus to the Church of our Redeemer, and consequently a curse to the world. Therefore,
     Resolved, That we deem it decidedly wrong for Christians, on any considerations, to give it approbation or fellowship, either express or implied.
[Similar resolutions include 2) disapproval of Secret Societies, 3) raising fund for mission purposes and...]
4th Whereas we believe the use of traffic in all intoxicating drinks as a beverage, to be a great moral evil--Therefore.
     Resolved, That we recommend to all the Churches of this Association to use all Gospel means to discountenance their use and especially within the pale of the Church..."
"6th. Resolved, That the present war with Mexico is a grief to us as citizens and Christians, and we pledge ourselves to use our influence to bring it to a speedy termination...The yeas and nays were demanded [SVR James is among the yeas.]
It is difficult to draw a precise line to the place of origin of SVR James from his fellow Baptists.  These resolutions by the Walworth Baptist Association give a clear picture of his spiritual and political convictions.

1847-MARRIAGE: Steven Van Rensselaer James married Dorcas Ann Kenyon in Walworth County, Wisconsin, on June 3, 1847, when he was 30 years old. The marriage record is referenced at FamilySearch.org in Volume 1; Page 288 of Walworth County, Wisconsin Marriage Records. The parents for Dorcas Kenyon are Gardiner Kenyon and Frances “Fanny” James who both died in Richmond, Washington County, Rhode Island in 1832 and 1837.  Therefore it is possible that Dorcas Ann Kenyon was residing with her maternal grandparents, Thomas James and Dorcas Perry in Richmond Township, Walworth County, Wisconsin immediately prior to her marriage to SVR James.

1848-1853 ASSOCIATES- The census records for SVR James from 1880 forward state that the birthplace of his parents was Rhode Island.  There are several persons with the surname James that came from Richmond, Washington, County, Rhode Island to Walworth County, Wisconsin. Richmond Township actually derives its name from the settlers from Richmond, Rhode Island. In fact, SVR James second wife is a descendant of these James families from Rhode Island that settled in a new Richmond Township in Walworth County, Wisconsin.

Among the first-comers to the town were Thomas and T. Perry James and Robert Sherman, from Richmond, Washington county, Rhode Island, and their influence, just then, was sufficient to place another Richmond in the field of American geography. [HWCW, Vol. 1-1912, page 384]

1848- BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Elvira F. was born on September 5, 1848, in Delavan, Walworth, Wisconsin, USA.

Elvira F. James (b. 1848 WI - d. 1929 KS) and her husband, Clement Ritchie (b. 1836 PA - d. 1909 IA)

1850- CENSUS: The U.S. Census confirms that SVR James had moved into Delavan, the county seat of Walworth County and was working as a clerk. He owned no property.
§  Reviewed the 1850 census for SVR James in Delavan, Walworth, Wisconsin.  The next page was scanned to find a merchant and another clerk. It is possible that the merchant employer was a friend from New York that induced him to move from Sugar Creek Township based on the promise of a job. He is enumerated on page 3 of 26 as a clerk. There are merchants enumerated as follows:
o   T.L. Parmelee; age 28; Merchant; $1200 Real Estate; born New York; also in his household is:
o   Steven McHugh; age 17; Clerk; born New York.
There is another clerk on page 4, dwelling 410:
o   Emmett Griffin; age 21; Clerk; born New York
On page 5; dwelling 415 there is another merchant:
o   James Filley [sp?]; age 35; merchant; $300 Real estate; born Ohio

1850- BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Emma Elizabeth was born on May 8, 1850, in Delavan, Walworth, Wisconsin, USA.

1850-1851: MIGRATION FROM WI TO IA: Based on the birthplaces of the child above and the child below, we can surmise when SVR James arrived in Iowa with his family.

1851- BIRTH OF CHILD: His son Dr. Clarence E. James was born on December 5, 1851, in Palmyra, Warren, Iowa.  The biography of C.E. James makes no mention of the birthplace of his father:

His birth occurred in Warren county, Iowa, on the 5th of December, 1851, his parents being S. V. R. and Dorcas Anne (Kenyon) James. In 1843 the former took up his abode in Warren county, this state, and both he and his wife now lie buried in Palmyra, that county. To them were born eight children, four sons and four daughters. [HMCI-1915, page 72]

Dr. Clarence E. James (b. 1851 IA - d. 1916 IA)

1852- CENSUS: Steven Van Rensselaer James lived in Richland, Polk, Iowa, USA according to the Iowa State Census.

1853- BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Georgeana was born on March 24, 1853, in Warren County, Iowa. Her records have not yet been analyzed for information about her father.

1853- RELIGION: SVR James was a charter member of the Hartford Baptist Church which was organized in April 1853.  [HWCI-1908, page 340.]

1854- BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Emma Elizabeth passed away on May 27, 1854, at the age of 4.

1854- BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Fanny was born on December 27, 1854.

1856- DEATH OF CHILD: His daughter Fanny passed away on April 11, 1856, when she was 1 year old.

1858- BIRTH OF CHILD: His son William Thomas James was born on March 28, 1858, in Warren, Iowa. Only a few of his records have been analyzed for information about his father.

1860- BIRTH OF CHILD: His son Asa Lincoln James was born on September 9, 1860.

1862- BIRTH OF CHILD: His son Arthur John was born on July 11, 1862, in Iowa.  His records have not yet been analyzed for information about his father.

Arthur John James (b. 1862 IA - d. 1937 CO)

1865-BIRTH OF CHILD: His daughter Bertha E. James was born on June 23, 1865, in Palmyra, Iowa.

Bertha E. Bartholomew nee James (b. 1865 IA - d. 1946 TX)

1867- MARRIAGE OF CHILD: Mary E. James married Sanford W. Provolt in Palmyra, Warren County, Iowa on 26 May 1867.

Name:  Mary E. James
Gender:               Female
Birth Date:          1843
Marriage Date:  26 May 1867
Marriage Place: Palmyra, Warren, Iowa
Marriage Age:   24
Spouse:                Sanford W. Provolt
FHL Film Number:            1011011
Reference ID:    #56, pg. 15
Images from the Marriage Register showing the license and the certificate are below:

Neither of these images contain any information on the birthplace of Mary Elizabeth James.

1870- CENSUS: Steven Van Rensselaer James lived in Palmyra, Warren County, Iowa, per the 1870 census.

1879- RESIDENCE: The Directory of Warren County in the 1879 county history lists S.V.R. James as a farmer on Section 30, Palmyra Township; Post Office: Palmyra; on the line above H.R. James AKA Henry Reynolds James is in the same section so it would appear that Steven is working Henry’s land. [HWCI-1879, page 710.]

1880- CENSUS: Steven Van Rensselaer James lived in Palmyra, Iowa, on July 10, 1880.

1885- DEATH OF WIFE: His wife Dorcas Ann Kenyon passed away on January 11, 1885, in Palmyra, Iowa, at the age of 55. They had been married 37 years.

1888- MARRIAGE OF CHILD: Steven’s daughter, Elvira F. James married Clement Ritchie 7 Mar 1888. The Warren County, Iowa marriage register gives Steven’s name but not his birthplace.

1898- DEATH OF CHILD: His son Asa Lincoln James passed away on December 25, 1898, at the age of 38.

1900- CENSUS: Steven Van Rensselaer James lived in Palmyra, Iowa, in 1900 with the family of his daughter. Age: 83; Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Father in Law.

1902- DEATH: Steven Van Rensselaer James died on July 7, 1902, in Palmyra, Iowa, when he was 85 years old. Death records for Warren County begin in 1904. The source for the death date is his gravestone.

1910- On 15 Jan 1910 Elvira F. Ritchie nee Elvira F. James filed from the state of Kansas for a Widows pension for the Civil War service of her husband Clement Ritchie.  It is unlikely that she would have stated where her father was born in any affidavits filed in the pension file but no stone should be left unturned.

1925- The State of Iowa conducted a census that is very valuable to genealogists because it gives the names and birth places of parents. For example William T. James, son of SVR James is enumerated in this census.  He states that his father was born in New York.  Usually the state of birth is the only information given as it was in this case.  The 1925 Iowa Census also gives the state where the parents were married.  We already knew about the 1847 marriage in Walworth County, Wisconsin.  This was not new information but it is an additional source which substantiates the marriage place.


Beckwith, Albert Clayton, History of Walworth County, Wisconsin ... B.F. Bowen and Co., 1912 –Indianapolis, Indiana; Two volumes. [HWCW-1912]

Annual Minutes of the Walworth Baptist Association, Walworth Baptist Association (Wis.), 1846-1869;  [WBA-1846-1848] https://books.google.com/books?id=VnnaR7air98C&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Atlas of Warren County, Iowa, published by Harrison & Warner, Marshalltown, Iowa, 1872 found in Ancestry.com. U.S., Indexed County Land Ownership Maps, 1860-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

Everts, Baskin, and Stewart, Combination atlas map of Walworth County Wisconsin, (1873), Map of Sugar Creek township, pp. 43-46; http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/WI/WI-idx?type=article&did=WI.LGAtlas.i0018&id=WI.LGAtlas&isize=L

History of Walworth County, Wisconsin..., Western Historical Company, 1882 - Chicago - 967 pages  [HWCW-1882] https://books.google.com/books?id=K1Q0AQAAMAAJ&source=gbs_similarbooks
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U.S. Census Bureau Frequently Occurring Surnames in the 2010 Census: Top 1,000 Surnames [Spreadsheet document on-line]  https://www.census.gov/topics/population/genealogy/data/2010_surnames.html

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S. J. Clarke publishing company. 1915; Biography of C.E. James, page 72; 

Photo Credits 

All of these credits reference usernames on Ancestry.com.

Steven Van Rensselaer James- rwegner2 [Bob Wegner] originally shared this on 05 Apr 2014

Mary Elizabeth James Provolt-Holly Knudsen originally shared this on 21 Oct 2015

Elvira and Clement Ritchie- cjcrum originally shared this on 11 Sep 2011

Dr. Clarence James, Location: Knoxville, Iowa- rwegner2 originally shared this on 05 Apr 2014

Uncle Will James- PaMayhew originally shared this on 19 May 2015

Uncle Arther James- Grandmother Mary Ritchie Johnson only saw him once she said in 1909; PaMayhew originally shared this on 19 May 2015

Bertha James Bartholomew- Mareva Orr originally shared this on 25 Mar 2014

Tuesday, February 27, 2018

Lady Bird- Accurate Picture of Sacto Beauty and Anxiety

Like most Sacramentans, I love Lady Bird and will be rooting for this movie on Sunday night.

Homecoming Queen: This portrait of Greta Gerwig appeared in the December-January 2018 issue of Sactown Magazine.

Lady Bird was written and directed by Sacramento native Greta Gerwig. In her directorial debut, her film has landed nominations in several prestigious categories including best picture, best director, best original screenplay, best actress (for Saoirse Ronan), and best supporting actress (for Laurie Metcalf).

Lady Bird is set in my hometown of Sacramento in 2002, the same year that Gerwig graduated from St. Francis High School. Gerwig's alter-ego is Christine "Lady Bird" McPherson, a senior student at a Sacramento Catholic high school. She dreams of escaping the "midwest of California" to attend an East Coast college. Her family is on the edge of economic ruin, and her mother repeatedly informs her daughter that she is an ungrateful brat with no appreciation for the sacrifices of her parents to provide a home and an expensive private school education. Mom's advice is to attend City College, go to jail and go back to city college when she gets out. It sounds rather bleak when you summarize it but I found this movie to be an intensely personal reflection of my feelings about the place that I call home.

Here are are a few of my favorite reviews that rang true for me:
Homecoming Queen- Greta Gerwig proves that you can indeed go home again with her stunning directorial debut "Lady Bird," a semi-autobiographical story about the Sacramento native’s senior year in high school. In her “love letter” to the River City, she fills the screen with nostalgia-soaked scenes of local landmarks and neighborhoods, revisiting her youth with the thoughtful perspective that only time can bring. And if growing Oscar buzz for the film is any indication, this is just the beginning for the first-time auteur and newly crowned Hollywood royalty. Long may she reign...
 “It took time to realize that Sacramento gave me what home should give you, which is roots and wings,” says Gerwig.
Source: www.sactownmag.com/December-January-2018/Homecoming-Queen
The irony is that Gerwig's love letter to Sacramento will only increase the demand and reduce the supply of what once was an affordable, family-friendly lifestyle. This next review points to issues of economic anxiety that I felt as a child and have never been able to shake:
Lady Bird Is the Rare Coming-of-Age Movie About the Strain of Growing Up Poor
...what struck me as most remarkable about the film is its nuanced, deft handling of social class—a reality teen movies usually address with hyperbole or avoid altogether by making their characters white and comfortably upper middle class by default.
Lady Bird is coming of age in a time when social mobility is an increasingly rare phenomenon; where kids who are born poor tend to stay that way their whole lives and pass that inheritance along to their children. The movie also takes place between 2002 to 2003, a moment where everything around you felt precarious: 9/11 is still at the forefront of the nation’s hearts and minds, the country has invaded Iraq for reasons that wouldn’t become more clear until 15 years later, and the financial crash is just around the corner—all underscoring the listlessness Lady Bird acutely feels in her own life but doesn’t yet have the vocabulary to extrapolate to the world beyond herself.
SOURCE: https://splinternews.com/lady-bird-is-the-rare-coming-of-age-movie-about-the-str-1820228537
Sacramento has always had an inferiority complex that has been foisted upon us by our neighbors from the Bay Area. The ultimate indignity to Sacramento is to say that you are from San Francisco. Having worked in the "The City," for twelve years, I at least have a legitimate claim.
During a disastrous inaugural night as a college student in New York, a drunken Lady Bird tells a fellow freshman that she’s from San Francisco and is immediately rueful for selling out her hometown.
The funny part is that I have never claimed to hate Sacramento but I definitely could relate to angst expressed by Lady Bird.
We want to hate it and we go to great lengths to prove we hate it. We pay so much attention to it that we write about it with tremendous affection...
SOURCE: https://www.reddit.com/r/Emojerk/.../sacramento_is_the_midwest_of_california/

The film is introduced by a quote from a 1979 interview with Joan Didion, also a native of our hometown: “Anybody who talks about California hedonism has never spent a Christmas in Sacramento.”

I felt duty bound to consult the Sacramento Bee for its opinions on the matter.  http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article186040483.html
I agree with the writer featured in the above article that "Lady Bird" is such an accurate portrait of our hometown that it feels like a documentary but certain realities were omitted.

One of my favorite lines in the movie is voiced by her friend, Danny: "Lady Bird always says that she lives on the wrong side of the tracks, but I always thought that that was like a metaphor, but there are actual train tracks."

I graduated from John F. Kennedy High School in 1971, located in the Greenhaven neighborhood.  My house near 24th and Meadowview was definitely on the "wrong side of the tracks" from Greenhaven. The words sung by Janis Joplin always resonated with me: "Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz. My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends..."  I never did get that Mercedes but a few of my high school friends did drive Porsches and BMWs.  We would break the speed limit on I-80 and Highway 50 so we could wait in the long lines to get into the parking lot at the ski areas.

Hanging out with friends from the other side of the tracks helped me to blur my senses to the socio-economic realities in my white flight neighborhood.  Those realities became crystal clear in 1968 when Kennedy High School had riots on the quad.  The "tough kids" both white and black battled it out with the stakes that were yanked from the saplings in our immature campus landscaping. I watched powerless but safe from my perch in the third floor geometry classroom. Our student body president, Cornell West, led the reconciliation efforts and he now describes himself as  a "prominent and provocative democratic intellectual." His critics have branded him as a "socialist." I wonder what he would think of Lady Bird.

My escape from Sacramento did not take me too far away at first. I have always felt fortunate that I was able to attend UC Davis. I had to laugh at Lady Bird when she disdains her acceptance to UC Davis because it has earned its reputation as an agricultural school.  This review was written by a  much younger UC Davis student, who manages to capture my feelings:
Lady Bird: A Review - The Aggie
Dec 10, 2017 -For UC Davis students in particular, “Lady Bird” speaks volumes. Sweeping shots of  Sacramento highways, the Tower Bridge and rural skylines evoke some sense of pride for the surrounding area of our favorite college town. While Lady Bird resents the fact that she was accepted into UC Davis — for its close proximity to her home and its fame as an agricultural school — she still deeply appreciates her hometown, although she may not see it quite yet herself.
So do yourself a favor and go see “Lady Bird.” See it with your mom. Remind her that you love her and that you do miss home more than you care to let on. See it for the hilarious references to our beloved UC Davis. Remember the feelings that you felt when you were in Lady Bird’s exact place as a high school senior. Immerse yourself in all that Gerwig has to offer to the audiences of “Lady Bird.” Remind yourself that you are [or were] young, naive and probably a bit selfish, but that sometimes, that’s okay.
I have chosen not to contribute to the Alumni Association but I will proudly close with the Aggie Yell: Bossy Cow-Cow Honey Bee-Bee Oleo Margarine Oleo Butterine Alfalfa Hay!!